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Well, looking at the bending form post is interesting to me (especially Richard's SJ L-OO bending form similarity) as I realized that I did something very dumb the other day.

As some of you know, I'm working on a maple/cedar guitar which I've bent the sides in my new side bender, which was compensated for the OM/OOO body size.

So, I've put together the sides, head and tail blocks, linings and was starting to layout the top bracing. I placed the top down than the assembled rim in the mold on top and by gosh, there was about a 1/4" gap at the tail end what happened.

Well, I take a second and third look at the sides and the top, thinking I cut the top to small but I measured it and it was fine......

Well, I assembled the rims in the wrong mold. I used my Grand Auditorium size mold. Dohhhh!!!!!!!!!

Well, after thinking about throwing the thing across the room, I stopped to think what I would do.

Well, I got out the iron and heated the side over the tail block till the glue softened and I worked the thin blade knife in between the side and block and separated the sides from both the tail and head block. Cleaned up the blocks so they were ready to go.

Now I put the sides into the OM/OOO mold and wouldn't you know it, they fit perfectly, even though I had the linings installed (regular, triangular linings). So I trimmed the ends to the correct length, trimmed back the linings to fit the head and tail block and glued in the blocks.

I sure was wondering why the tail ends were so close to the end joint when I didn't cut them to length before hand.

Well, now I have the molds clearly labeled and I'm sure this won't happen again (knock on wood).

What a bone head

Pictures to come later tonight.

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Rod - now that's what I call a great "save". Now if only my Leafs had a fellow like you in net


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Thanks Anthony, lucky for me it wasn't the otherway around, I'd be making a GA instead of the OM that I wanted to build.

The Canucknuckleheads aren't doing any better than the Leafs that's for sure.

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I agree, NICE save. Seems that no matter how many times I cut a piece of wood, it is still too short. Show me a luthier who has not made a mistake and I'll show you somebody who hasn't built a guitar yet.

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Thanks Greg.

Hey, where in Canada are you located?

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Rod, you're the King! Great save bro!

You must be related to our goal tender in Montreal!(wink to Anthony )

Reminds me of when i bent one of my sides the wrong way on no 2 and had to flatten it out per Micheal's coaching and the heat blanket laying flat on the bench or when i sent my new plexiglass rosette cutter jig on the cement floor of my shop and yelled " Dang, Dang and Redang"!And when i ..........

Thanks foe sharing Rod, you are a humble man!


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Right on brother! I'm glad you where able to save the day in the end!

Exactly as Hesh pointed, we're only human after all...

Glad to hear that all turned out well. Looking forward to your pictures!


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Thanks for the reminder to stop and think, before throwing a tantrum! Good recovery.


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Stuff happens -- it's all part of the hobby. Rod you handled it all well and productively. Had it been me - I would have saved the top and made new ribs and saved the wrong sized ribs for another top and built another Grand Auditorium.

Last spring I had finished an intricate inlay on the headstock and fretboard. Headstock is bound, neck is carved and a bum 2-way truss rod snapped on me. Remarkably no tantrum, no loss of sleep! Next morning two phone calls: 1) Tony Karol how do I fix this and save all the inlay, and 2) Bob Cefalu please send figured maple for the neck - ASAP.

As it turns out, I had to resaw off the headplate (to save the inlay). Cracked a piece of pearl in the centre -- routed out the old piece - cut and dropped in a new piece in. I cut the back of the neck off in order to yank out the truss rod and CF rods, then resaw off the fretboard -- sand it down to remove the residual maple off ......Major pain in the rump!

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Well, thanks for the kind encouragment my friends. Yes we are all human and thankfully, most everything we do is reversable.

Well, I don't have process pictures, but I do have a before and after picture, which is really hard to see a difference. I tend not to document to many things, but I've got to learn to take more pictures so that I can help others when I can.

So, here are the before and after

Before



And after



You can sort of see that the lower bout in the second picture is smaller (it's only 1/2" less though), but you can see that the length is less (it's only 5/8" different).

See, nothing really dramatic. Just fix the sucker, that's all. sorry there aren't more process pictures. I've stated to bring the camera every time I head down to the shop.

Expect more Rod True39049.0983796296

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Nice save! Cant wait to see that guitar coming together..


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Wow Anthony that's a fix

Great job bud. Like they say, we always have an opportunity to learn, whether we do it right or not.

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